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Blue Beret
« on: January 29, 2010, 02:19:41 PM »

Tom  Collier,Presidents corner,I can see some concerns about club dlrection and membership. Nothing about the SURVEY.Well ,  President wants to dump it on the membership.Its up to every member to increase the numbers.I tell people about the club when I go camping .I am not here for recruiting,I am here for camping.So my life is less stressful Mr. President.I suggest your recruiting new  marketing  commmittee HANDLE it.  You think Mr. Larson reads Save Wally?
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 03:28:12 PM »

Jerry Larson's,Presidents corner,I can see some concerns about club dlrection and membership. . .

What issue are you reading?  Jerry Larson was president last year.  Tom Collier is president this year.
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 11:31:51 PM »

I'm not so sure that the IP has time to check in here this year...  I think he's likely up to his eyeballs in a really big mess...

Oh, and if you haven't received it yet, the Feb BB is online now...

http://wbcci.org/documents/ACF372.pdf

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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 09:33:45 AM »

Quote from: Tom Collier
2010 is beginning with renewed hope for our economy and the continued growth in WBCCI.
Continued growth??? When has this club seen actual continued growth in the last 15 years????

I just read the letters to the editor section and I continue to lose hope in the WBCCI. To me, it seems that Norm Beu equates the membership losses to units not doing a good enough job attracting new members. But the overall club image is never debated - until the letter from the gentleman who feels the opening ceremony is old and outdated. That gentleman offers reasonable suggestions on keeping the ceremony but updating it a little. Don Clark's basic answer is that the club loves the ceremony and it has a long tradition...
I can say from my personal experience - our first International was in Salem, OR. We attended that ceremony as an active participant and spectator (my wife carried a flag for our former unit). She was so excited to be a part of this! But the experience was not too pleasant - it went on and on and seemed like it would never end.
We attended PART of another in Bozeman and left early as it was the same thing - on and on....
In Madison, we just didn't bother...
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 10:45:32 AM »

Tradition.  This is a word that is used so frequently in answers about why we don't change.  Well, "tradition" has also been defined as what you rely on when you have neither money nor ideas.  That pretty much hits the nail on the head, doesn't it?  My experience with Opening Ceremonies is much the same as Simon's.  At our first International Rally (Salem), I was asked to carry the flag for another unit that was missing.  A long ceremony indeed.  I sat in the stands for it in Perry, took a pass in Madison, but have to make a decision for Gillette (I'm now Unit Prez).  I can say that the ritual of the thing turns off some people (like me) and, really, it just goes on SO long. 

Kerry
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 11:19:37 AM »

I think I have attended 2 opening ceremonies  in about 15 internationals attended.. On the second one we had gone to dinner with friends and were shanghied.  It seemed to last for several days allthough I guess it wasn't really that long.

The ceremony will continue to get shorter as more units fold.
Someday the IBT folks may realize the unit is not the problem, and the unit is NOT sucking up $65.00 of our money.

The defense of opening ceremonies. etc is always "this is what sets the WBCCI apart from other clubs".  I guess that also applies to declining membership and defict spending.
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 11:24:07 AM »

We need to recruit ...  Now that brings back memories! :D  As new Airstreamers at Jackson Center's Homecoming in 2004 we were solicited more than once or even twice by very aggressive zealots with coupons and Blue Berets in hand.  We didn't know what to think.  :o

Fast forward and now we do know what to think.  We are holding on ourselves by a thread.  There is no way we could see our way clear to recruit anyone to the club as it is now.  We aren't even successful in getting members to stay in the club.

Again the ball is punted, the IBT took its turn and now it's up to the membership to scramble to make a play.  No.  It is up to the leadership representing us to act on behalf of the membership, the ones they have, now.  That should be their first loyalty and duty.  Instead of counting all the dollars they are going to make with all the new members that are going to stream through the WBCCI floodgates trying to get in after they spend more money promoting the club and losing an acceptable (to them) amount of members from a dues increase; instead of that, how about they just spend less and make it more fun by listening to the members that they have now, and let the IBT try to retain and recruit members by what they can offer and not by soliciting units to do their bidding to see what they can get in the amount of increased revenue!  Continued growth of the club... is that newspeak for finding a group of new quality members that will be more accepting and less trouble or would that be the continued collecting of more money.  I think it is both.  They are definitely multitasking, especially with a bit of slight of hand to make it all seen as positive. ::)

I have never seen a group such as this count so many many chickens repeatedly before they are hatched.  A little fiscal review instead of unrealistic dreaming or denial would be in order. They keep looking so much towards the new horizons and back at the old traditions that they keep tripping and falling over the present. :-\

The flag ceremony and colored pants and jackets may be horrifying and a huge culture shock to many younger participants along with the activities and entertainment but there is so much more than that to be concerned about.  They are responsible for overspending and keeping by far the lion's share to spend upon themselves and not giving a voice to unit and MAL members and either engaging or allowing obstructionistic practices to go unchecked.
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 12:34:27 PM »

Churchill had a comment about tradition during WWII.  A cadet was denied a regular commission in the Royal Navy on the grounds that, based on "tradition", he did not come from a "suitable" family. Sir Winston allowed that traditions must change to keep up with the times.  Otherwise, he said, the Royal Navy would still be holding on to "bad food, sodomy and the lash".  The brass hats took the hint and the lad was commissioned. 

We have by-invitation-only dinners, executive in-breeding (figurative), and a secretive disclipline process.  Tradition indeed!!
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2010, 03:25:55 PM »

I just came home from a short trip to find the BB in the mail and read the letters and answers.  It just amazes me just how wrong we who have not been anointed by the higher ups can so consistently be. 

I, like many of you, sat (squirmed) through one flag ceremony and went back again only once, because my wife carried the flag for our unit that year and I had to drive her there.  Folks stay away in droves from the ceremony and any bigwig without his head up and locked can not help but see that.  Those that are there are either first timers or have a relative or friend involved.

The white tux thing is just another symptom of the sickness at the top of this club.
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Re: Blue Beret
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2010, 05:18:55 PM »

I just finished reading the President's corner.  While he does talk about member recruitment and member retention, my impression is the real focus is on increasing revenue. which should NOT be the reason for trying to recruit more members.
It looks to me like balancing the current budget would not be difficult at all.
If it is the units that count, why is the international getting all the money, and wasting a good bit of it??

Quotes from Presidents Corner below:

I have received comments from members complaining that the leadership isn’t taking any positive action to turn WBCCI around.
They want to know what the Executive Board is doing to increase member recruitment, increase revenue, member retention,
and to change WBCCI’s current image as a group of “old fogies.”

When membership decreases, our revenues go down.

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