[Simon]

Being as Mr. Gregory Gibson runs the WBCCIs forums, and being as he now represents their best interests, he has submitted an abuse form against SaveWally, and it's "principals" for abuses of an abhorrent nature.
If you read the message below (which includes "messages to his lawyer", you will see that he actually accuses the SaveWally people of attempting to hack into his server. Of course, he has no valid proof of that whatsoever but you get where it is going...

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From: gregory [mailto:elijah.g@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 3:02 PM
To: Copyright
Subject: FW: [ThePlanetAbuse-C46258234M] SaveWally.org

The following entries at the SaveWally website contain unauthorized copyrighted
screen-captured materials that have been used unlawfully and without permission:

http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1635.0.html
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1542.0.html
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1484.0.html
This thread represents harrassment and privacy violations:
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1637.0.html


I am in fact an authorized individual who can confirm the fact that
the above referenced material was used without authorization or proper consent
of the copyright holder.
In addition, I hereby confirm that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that I am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.
The infringed materials are taken without authorization from websites that
we own/operate:

http://forum.wbcci.org/forums.php
http://www.vintage-airstream.com
Regards,

Gregory Gibson
WBCCI Electronics Committee

704-566-1437 p/f
704-877-4180 c

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Come join us!


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-----Original Message-----
From: abuse@theplanet.com [mailto:abuse@theplanet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:32 PM
To: Legal
Subject: [ThePlanetAbuse-C46258234M] SaveWally.org


To whom it may concern
We are of the understanding that the website SaveWally.org and its corresponding forum community are hosting clients of The Planet Ã''- Global IT Hosting Leader:

http://www.whoishostingthis.com/savewally.org

In reviewing the terms of service as set forth by The Planet [see schedule A attached] your hosting client is currently engaging in all of the highlighted activities below clearly violating nearly half of the items on this list:

Prohibited Activities
forging, misrepresenting, omitting or deleting message headers, return mailing information, or internet protocol addresses, to conceal or misidentify the origin of a message;

creating or sending Internet viruses, worms or Trojan horses, flood or mail bombs, or engaging in denial of service attacks;

hacking, and/or subverting, or assisting others in subverting, the security or integrity of our products or systems;

soliciting the performance of any illegal activity, even if the activity itself is not performed;

threatening bodily harm, or encouraging bodily harm or property destruction;

harassing another, or encouraging harassing behavior;

engaging in outright fraud, or using services to engage in scams like pyramid schemes;

collecting personal information about others without their knowledge or consent;

instructing others in prohibited activities;

using services to disseminate or display images classified under U.S. law as child pornography, child erotica (regardless of literary or artistic merit) and/or bestiality; and/or

acting in any manner that might subject The Planet to unfavorable regulatory action, subject us to any liability for any reason, or adversely affect The PlanetÃ''''s public image, reputation or goodwill, as determined by us in our sole and exclusive discretion.

creating fake weblog or weblogs which are intended or reasonably likely to promote the authorÃ''''s affiliated websites or to increase the search engine rankings of associated sites.

sending spam to weblog sites or automatically posting random comments or promotions for commercial services to weblogs.
We are currently initiating legal actions against your hosting client SaveWally.org for numerous State and Federal criminal violations including State & Federal Cyberstalking statutes, Harassment, Defamation of Character, Libel, Tortuous Business Interference, Unfair Business Practices, False Light Invasion of Privacy, and numerous Copyright & Trademark violations as can be evidenced in the attached cease & desist letter.

Cyberstalking, harassment, defamation, and issuance of physical threats can be seen in examples here:
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1637.0.html

More of the same here...cyberstalking, cyberbullying, and unauthorized copyrighted screencaptures:
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1635.0.html

More cyberstalking and unauthorized copyrighted screencaptures:
http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1542.0.html


These are only a few of the many threads and entries at your clients website solely devoted to the ownersÃ'''' cyberstalking and harassment activities. In the process the owners have used and posted unauthorized copyrighted screenshots of our property in addition to the various other charges listed above. We also have written proof of their solicitation of a third party to breach and gain unauthorized illegal access to our software and databases.

We trust you will take the appropriate actions in regard to this matter once you have had the opportunity to look at the evidence in contrast to your terms of service.

Regards,

Gregory Gibson
WBCCI Electronics Committee

704-566-1437 p/f
704-877-4180 c

Airstream Community Forums
The Original Airstream Owners Club
Come join us!


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---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Matt Arnold"<mra@arnoldsmithlaw.com>
To: "gregory"<elijah.g@juno.com>
Subject: RE: AirForums/SaveWally
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:49:52 -0400


Have you been able to confirm that there was unauthorized access to your server?

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---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Matt Arnold"<mra@arnoldsmithlaw.com>
To: "gregory"<elijah.g@juno.com>
Subject: RE: AirForums/SaveWally
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:16:28 -0400

I agree. Print EVERYTHING. I will send you a draft letter shortly. What time are you planning to come by the office tomorrow? Please bring all of your printouts with you (including the initial package of stuff you printed).

Matthew R. Arnold, Esq.
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From: gregory [mailto:elijah.g@juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Matt Arnold
Subject: RE: AirForums/SaveWally

This has gone waaaaay over the line......

http://savewally.org/forums/index.php/topic,1637.msg11810/topicseen.html#msg11810


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Matt Arnold"<mra@arnoldsmithlaw.com>
To: "gregory"<elijah.g@juno.com>
Subject: RE: AirForums/SaveWally
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:18:12 -0400
I will call you shortly. I need to finish something up first.

Matthew R. Arnold, Esq.
Arnold & Smith, PLLC
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[RickDavis]

Afterreading that thing several times and following the links I am totally confused.
Think I'll give up and go have my afternoon snack.
Somehow Fruitcake seems appropriate

[Jim Awrkins]

"....creating mailbombs...and using services to display bestiality"?

Now, this is getting good.  For a while, I was afraid that Save Wally has lost its way, wallowing in bourgeois mediocrity with the occasional commonplace crusade.  However, with this recently bestowed litany of electronic horrors, I see we're back in business.

[Wheel Interested]

By enlisting Greg Gibson and allowing him to maintain his status as administrator of the WBCCI forums is he at greater liberty to act outside of Roberts Rules and the jurisdiction of the grievance committee and thereby circumvent members' protections within the club?

In other words could WBCCI be held libel for intentionally recruiting Greg Gibson to "take care of their forum problems" and absolve themselves of their responsibility towards members, washing their hands of his actions because he is an individual vender?

Perhaps the IBT was not rooked or beguiled by this selection but rather shrewd in the employment of this particular administrator based upon his past reputation to solicit him to do what they could not attest to do publicly.

At any rate how the WBCCI IBT could possibly consider the present WBCCI forums a positive and the past WBCCI forums a negative is sheer wonderment to me. The club reputation and ethical practices seem to have taken a back seat to silencing criticism and the very words out of members own mouths at any cost.   However in my opinion the cost has been to the leadership's own detriment and image and not to that of any persons with different ideas of how to run a club.

Members duty as well as the officers duty is to debate, change, challenge, uphold, and generally provide a climate that allows for business and policy to be conducted freely among all of its members being no respecter to some greater than to others.  It is not the job of leadership to censure obstruct or judge the acceptability of attitude opinions or ideas but to so organize the meetings to have them presented and addressed by the entire body of membership.  The IBT should not be in charge of the members forums any more than the IBT should be in charge of the delegates meetings.  And Greg Gibson should be in full charge of Greg Gibson for starters.

[69xyz]

How is Greg Gibson the owner of the whole WBCCI, I thought he was just a swindler who sold but at times failed to deliver Airstreams. (as reposted elsewhere)

"In addition, I hereby confirm that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that I am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed." - Gregory Gibson, WBCCI Forums Owner

It would appear that Gregory Gibson has been given full authority, by the IBT, to act directly against other WBCCI members for their use in revealing website screen shots that prove that the new owners of the WBCCI forums have been deliberately and intentionally blocking WBCCI members from access to the forum, by blocking their IP addresses, in addition to subjecting some users to the "Miserable Users Hack," a deceitful software modification that subjects specific individuals to long delays and "server busy" messages, all in a deliberate and intentional effort to appear innocent, yet frustrate them and deter them from attempting to access the forums.

Where is the IBT when you really need them?

Someone should file a grievience against Gibson

Get rid of this guy he is single handedly doing more harm and causing disharmony to the entire Airstream community than anyone in past history.

Gibson's work on the forums is a total failure.

See the comments on Air Forums no one hardly uses it, that is the people that aren't blocked.

There are numerous people with experience in forum software that are caring members that would have set it up for FREE as in no cost.

Cut your losses get the clubs forum on the right track.

[65GT]

A friend sent this link that covers the BULLY tactics used in this instance.  News to me, but it would appear that anyone that consistently causes/has trouble with their internet dealings routinely uses these types of tactics to HIDE THEIR TRACKS. The belief that you can keep WBCCI club screenshots from WBCCI members is ludicrous, but hey -- what are we dealing with here?   

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html

What was that quote used initially, something about letting the light shine in, revealing the truth.  Yeah, that works, except when you try and throw a BLANKET on the truth...  Not happening here bud...

Anyone needing the actual screen shots previously displayed at SW, that show the TRUTH of the matter -- just make a public request -- we'll be happy to share them -- and make sure that YOU pass them on to your unit leaders, and your unit membership!!

I'm sure Tim will have all of this resolved shortly...  Too bad LEADERSHIP can't act this quickly, huh.  Oh, so what's new there?

In fact, I think I see a PDF coming out shortly that will tie all of these loose pages together nicely, available to our ENTIRE 6,000+  members.  That ought to fix this for good...

Mr. Collier -- take down those forums and remove the very scoundrel that IBT members seemed so intent on keeping from running a muck there.  Who is deliberately and intentionally causing members harm, hiding behind software hacks and "plausible deniability?"  Who is plotting and scheming and invading member's privacy?

You should be ashamed of what has transpired at forum.wbcci.org.    I'm embarrassed for you.  Perhaps a background check with Region 3 was in order?  Perhaps club leadership should have had some clue, some background check on both the company and the individual that now owns OUR WBCCI forums?  Perhaps 'the rest of the story' should have been made available to IBT members, prior to their vote, instead of hidden and mis-directed by EC7 leadership?

Leadership continually FAILS to vet out issues of importance to the membership.  How many years, how many issues does our membership have to put up with these half assed attempts at making improvements?  Pull the plug and let the membership get this done right, within our own ranks, without selling our soul to some unknown quantity...

[Zigzagguzzi]

Let's see---Airstream controls the club which controls the forum which is threatening lawsuits against airstream owners . I think those looking into this should be at the corporate level. The last think the factory needs is bad publicity because they failed to police the club and forum closely enough. All aspects of this situation need to be looked into by airstream personnel! IT IS TIME!!!  zz

[Lynn]

Let's see---Airstream controls the club which controls the forum which is threatening lawsuits against airstream owners . I think those looking into this should be at the corporate level. The last think the factory needs is bad publicity because they failed to police the club and forum closely enough. All aspects of this situation need to be looked into by airstream personnel! IT IS TIME!!!  zz

No, I don't think this is correct information at a couple of levels:

1. Airstream controls the club. Not really. The WBCCI is probably the only branded club that is not company owned and operated.

2. The club controls the forum. This is a point of discussion. Most contend, I think, that the club -- that is, the IBT -- does not really know or understand what is happening.

3. The forum is threatening lawsuits against Airstream owners. More or less right, but it seems that the threats and lawsuits are against only a small group of owners, and they are members of the WBCCI (still a proper subset of Airstream owners).

Lynn

PS: I'm having a terrible time posting. I can type, but the posting scrreen jumps around, and I can't observe the typing.

[Zigzagguzzi]

Airstream and Wally I am sure are owned by the factory, hence they control the club,  by  controlling use of the names. Pull the use of the names and the club and forum go away.  zz

[Simon]

Let me correct things now -= it was inappropriate to have said that WBCCI was trying to shut down SaveWally. I received confirmation that neither Gibson, nor any member of the ECC has been authorized to perform the tasks that were taken - reporting to hosting companies like HostGator that copyright material exists.
So this means that it was solely Gibson, acting solely on his own and without authorization of WBCCI, who is trying to shut down SaveWally. I can not correct the subject line of every post, but I did correct the first one which I have started and this one.
I apologize for the confusion and am openly admitting my mistake in assuming that, as Gibson had stated, he was authorized to do what he did. I will not be making that mistake again I assure you.

[ByamCaravanner]

I apologize for the confusion and am openly admitting my mistake in assuming that, as Gibson had stated, he was authorized to do what he did. I will not be making that mistake again I assure you.

Tim, understandable... since Greg is authorized by the WBCCI to run the forum that bears it's name. Until that changes, he is operating as an agent of the club.

[Simon]

Opening the forums and having WBCCI own and manage that asset ends this issue. It is a simple and cheap fix...
Imagine, WBCCI owns the forums, some Administrator installs the "Miserable Users Hack" and one of the other appointed Admins discover it and remove it. No problem... See how that works?

[Simon]

O.K. Everybody - stop emailing me. I was not threatened to apologize. I apologized because it is the right thing to do. I was wrong in assuming that Gibson was authorized to do what did when he clearly was not.
I inappropriately blamed WBCCI for going after SaveWally and these forums when they clearly did not. It was just one loose cannon doing what he has been known to do before - go after people.

[Simon]

O.K. - I guess I didn't express it well. I only found out today - this afternoon - that Gibson did not have the authority via being the webmaster of the forums or a member of the ECC to contact my host provider and report that there was Copyrighted material on SaveWally.

[Mud Dog]

Airstream and Wally I am sure are owned by the factory. . .

Not true.

Don't take my word for it.  Go to the US Patent and Trademark Office web site,

 

http://www.uspto.gov/index.html

Click on the link "Trademarks", then jump to (3) Search TM database .  Select "New User Form Search (Basic)" and type "Wally Byam in the search window.

You will see that the words, "Wally Byam Caravan Club, International", the WBCCI logo with Wally's face on it, and the name of the magazine Blue Beret are active trademarks of the Wally Byam Caravan Club International, Inc., not Airstream, Inc.