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65GT

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Re: Change is coming??
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2009, 06:09:03 PM »

Hey Carol -- looks to me that the attachment doesn't even show up unless you're logged in.  Here's a link to an alternate location...

http://13panels.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/090603-WBCCI-Bylaws-Policies-Amendment.pdf

Let me know if that one works for you...
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Re: Change is coming??
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2009, 07:57:51 PM »

I can open that.  Thanks Leo. 

You say in the rationale as it stands now only the IBT can change bylaws and policies.  That means they are the ones that will have to approve the constitutional ammendment to give members that same power to make changes to the bylaws and policies, right?  Unless, is it 2/3 of all units vote it in without going through the IBT?  Or have I got that all confused?  Are they likely to approve this do you think?  What are you anticipating?

I like this,

"This motion will correct this oversight and allow members/units to adopt Bylaws and Policy while not changing the
Board of Trustees’ ability to also adopt Bylaws and Policy. Any Board of Trustees is subordinate to the member
body that elects them and is usually appointed by organizations that meet only annually, as does WBCCI.
Therefore, the WBCCI Board of Trustees authority is to be exercised between annual meetings of the delegates.
Running the WBCCI is a responsibility that the board and the members share. Please note that a subordinate
body (Board of Trustees) cannot subsequently modify any action taken by its superior (members/units)."

Thanks for working hard Leo.  I hope your efforts come to fruition and are recognized and appreciated.
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Re: Change is coming??
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2009, 08:04:15 PM »

You want the IBT to propose club dues (increase or otherwise) along with justification (financial impact statement) and allow the membership to vote on it?  I think that's where you're going...

Okay, so in the roughest of concept (as opposed to a draft)...


Yeah, you get it!  :D

Now lets go a little further: I think UNITS should also be allowed to propose changes and request approval by the membership. For instance, let the IBT make their case for $75 dues; allow MetroNY to justify the status quo of $55; NEU could try to persuade the membership to only pay $10, and allow the FCU to propose $1.50 dues, etc.... You get the idea.

But I would also suggest that anyone who proposes club dues should, in cooperation with the Treasurer of the WBCCI, prepare and present a general fund budget. This budget should project the Club's income and expenditures for that fiscal year.

This will require a change to the Art. IV, Sec. 11 Policy regarding International Dues as well as the previously mentioned Constitution section. 
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Re: Change is coming??
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2009, 04:39:25 PM »

Ok, let me see if I have all of this right.

The motion would allow members / unit presidents to modify the
By-laws.

If passed the unit presidents / members (4,000 plus strong)  would change a by-law at the International Rally and on the 5th of July the IBT meets a simple majority of 10 IBT members change it back to what they had. - so where is progress??

The motion needs teeth and protection from the IBT simply changing it back to what they had before.

Come on people, you can do better then that.

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Re: Change is coming??
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2009, 10:57:44 PM »

You really think that's necessary?  You think this group of 19 has the cojones to undo what the membership intentionally sets forward and DOES?

Do you have any appropriate words that could be inserted into this?

Honestly, it would take pure gall to undo what the membership sets into action.  I honestly can't even envision the backlash of the IBT19 undoing what the ~4,000 membership proudly accomplishes...  :o

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